Thane status, Thieves Guild, bribery), but any choice other than going to jail or resisting arrest is rendered useless. Suddenly, there is a disturbance—Thonar will call out to his wife, Betrid, who has fallen victim to Nana Ildene and Donnel, the supposed cleaning crew for the Treasury House. Reviews: 4. The killer yelled something before he was killed by the guard. Another approach involves pickpocketing Thonar's Journal from him, so his wife doesn't die, and Donnel and Nana Ildene don't attack anyone. Stages are not always in order of progress. You can report back to Eltrys with your information about Margret for a leveled gold reward, or continue researching Weylin and Thonar before going back to Eltrys. Storm: Fine, I'll come quietly. As Madanach has many allies who will attempt to defend him if attacked, it may be difficult to kill him at a low level. Reviews: 0. He will curse the Forsworn, and then tell you that he has been controlling them by imprisoning their king Madanach. They will then attempt to apprehend the Dragonborn on sight. You can follow the smelter lead to the Smelter Overseer's House to speak with Mulush gro-Shugurz. My only option to clear my name is to let myself be imprisoned inside Cidhna Mine and locate Madanach, the King in Rags. Eltrys ends up being dead by the hand of the [ [Markarth]] guards and you are arrested for his murder then sent to [ [Cidhna Mine]]. If Nana Ildene and Donnel die before you talk to Thonar, Betrid will die without anyone being there to kill her. Talked to Thonar (he's an ass). Nana and Donnel are actually undercover Forsworn agents, so it's safe to kill them. If Margret is dead, and the Dragonborn obtained Margret's room key from her body, the room can be approached directly. ", Player: "You're corrupt. It appears that by handing over Markarth during the negotiations, this quest will automatically end. While walking through the open market in Markarth, a woman named Margret is viciously attacked while buying jewelry. Otherwise the Dragonborn must ask the barkeeper Kleppr about Margret. Honestly, I burnt out. How to kill Madanach - Forsworn Conspiracy quest (Spoilers!) In your investigations thus far, you have learned that Weylin worked as a smelter at Cidhna Mine and lived in the Warrens—a public house for the city's destitute. Anyone else have trouble with The Forsworn Conspiracy? The Forsworn Conspiracy is a quest available in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim in which the Dragonborn must assist Eltrys in investigating a conspiracy in Markarth involving the Forsworn and the Silver-Bloods. They will reject any and all attempts to exonerate the Dragonborn, no matter what the player tells them. Guard: "Same thing we do with all the other natives who want to change things around here. If you did not obtain the key to Margret's room from her corpse earlier, you can receive it through dialogue with Kleppr, steal it from behind the bar (or even just simply take it freely), or just pick the lock to her door. A mysterious note that a witness says you dropped will be given to you, asking to meet at the Shrine of Talos. Then went to jail, wanted to see the second quest. Go kill a guard, then leave the hold and fast travel back and let them arrest you. If you choose to go to jail, you will not be able to gain entrance to the King in Rags' cell to continue the quest. Once again major spoilers. With decent sneaking, the Dragonborn can kill him without alarming the Markarth guards. The last guard killed was most likely the guard you needed. It is possible to save Margret from Weylin if you're fast enough. Using the Voice of the Emperor, It is not necessary to complete all objectives to advance the quest to the final stage. Skip to 3:15 for the aftermath. But I want to kill him, I don't want to part of the Forsworn and I don't want to battle the people and guards in Markarth. It all The old man hands out the orders. 9 years ago. Weylin's room is the last one on the right side. Eltrys If you attack him, he will become hostile towards you and attack you instead of Margret. Read Weylin's Note 10. The Forsworn Conspiracy The first time you enter Markarth's market, you witness a murder where a man named Weylin draws a knife and stabs a stall owner named Margret. Thonar gets up and runs down the hall where there's fighting going on. Enter it and look in the chest for a note addressed to Weylin. Serve the jail time, then come back after being released from jail. If done correctly (without being seen at all after pickpocketing the journal) no one will attack the Dragonborn. She will not die if you never talk to Thonar. If you do save her, she rewards you with the pendant she just purchased. If you escape the city and return later on, you will still be considered a public enemy. Side quest It is possible to complete this quest without starting. When I witnessed this, I immediately killed the man and then there is a whole scene of guards coming and talking and saying that the problem is dealt with, etc. It is possible to save Margret from Weylin's attack if you act as soon as he pulls his knife. At this point, the Dragonborn can choose to go quietly or resist arrest. Dryston will go to Weylin's room and sit in a chair. Find evidence about Weylin 4. You're only choices are to get arrested or run, however, if you run, then every time you enter Markarth, the guards will attempt to arrest you again. "The Forsworn Conspiracy" - The decision. Started to investigate the case. Obtain the key to Weylin's room (optional) 9. (Preventing the murder will affect the course of the quest; see notes below. It's time you learned a lesson." At this point, the questline will not proceed until the Dragonborn speaks with a Markarth guard. 0. He will pay you for any information you can bring. Talk to Nepos and he will reveal the existence of the Forsworn in Markarth, his involvement with the Forsworn and that he does not plan to let the Dragonborn leave the house alive. When you exit the Warrens, a Breton named Dryston will approach you, threatening: "You've been digging around where you don't belong. The Forsworn Conspiracy Even if you have managed to kill them, they will respawn when The Reach resets itself. Thonar's wife is murdered by Nana Ildene, at which point Donnel will join in the attack. Reading it will update the quest log. I've noticed some other threads with this issue, but I figured I would make one that was more specific to my problem inca If you are having trouble starting the next quest. Margret will reward you for saving her and you will not get a bounty on your head. The Dragonborn can also speak to his daughter, rent the room for 10 gold, bribe, intimidate, persuade, or pickpocket Kleppr to get the key. Eltrys at the Shrine of Talos in Markarth. If you previously pickpocketed Thonar's journal, the quest will jump ahead and you'll find Eltrys dead with three angry guards at the shrine. Re: The Forsworn Conspiracy … The failure or success of his attempt depends on whether the Dragonborn intervenes before he gets close enough to trigger the animation of him stabbing Margret in the back with his dagger. Thonar is paying you." After the conversation with Nepos, everyone in the house attacks the Dragonborn. The quest will be completed and Eltrys can be looted instantly. Madanach has now become "out of control", however. After completing the quest No One Escapes Cidhna Mine there is a battle between the Forsworn and the Markarth guards. as he stabs her in the back. I read about the glitch and that you can overcome it by pausing 24hrs and then talk to on of the guards to get the quest fixed. This also prevents the deaths of Margret, Betrid, Nana, and Donnel. Ever since I left the town, each guard in Morkoth repeats the same dialogue from the time you are arrested. Work. 0. » Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:24 pm . If the Dragonborn has a high bounty, Betrid Silver-Blood and other characters will become hostile towards the Dragonborn, but this can be fixed with a basic calm spell. Simulacrum. as he attempts to escape. Followers . Walkthrough: written by Beezer1029, not checked, Reward: written by EllEzDee, checked by Beezer1029. Once the player wakes up, open the console again, and type: "setstage ms02 0," which will force the next quest, No One Escapes Cidhna Mine, to begin." He informs them that they will pin all the murders and troubles made on the Dragonborn. Return to the shrine of Talos to report back your findings. Go to the Shrine of Talos 2. He wants me to meet him at the Shrine of Talos, presumably to talk about the recent murder in Markarth's marketplace. The attack on Betrid can be avoided by pickpocketing Thonar's journal without speaking to him. Work. This is usually the case with quests that have multiple possible outcomes or quests where certain tasks may be done in any order. Descend into the temple and speak to Eltrys, who has been looking for answers about the Forsworn attacks that have been happening in the city, ever since his father was killed by the Forsworn and that he has been trying his whole life to find out why, and why the guards do nothing about it. And then do the guards respawn? If you then proceed to pickpocket Thonar's journal before entering the Shrine of Talos, you will find Eltrys's dead body and three guards who will arrest you for his murder as well as the other murders around the city (even though no one else has died), thus completing a quest which never started. To find information on Margret, go to the Silver-Blood Inn and ask Kleppr or Frabbi about her. If evidence is discovered about Nepos or Thonar before receiving the reward, the next quest stage will be triggered without receiving the reward. 1. Read Margret's Journal 7. This section contains bugs related to The Forsworn Conspiracy. You can chat with him for a bit about the assault, but then he will suddenly say, "Oh, I think you dropped this. He wants me to meet him at the Shrine of Talos, presumably to talk about the recent murder in Markarth's marketplace. Sometimes the quest will start in German. It is possible to keep Betrid Silver-Blood, Nana Ildene, and Donnel alive after completion of this quest. Community content is available under. Garvey can be bribed, intimidated, pickpocketed, or persuaded to hand the key over. Yippee.. so I went to the talos shrine And was confronted by the guards.. instead of selectimg any answers, I exit the dialogue. Looks important." However, if the city's allegiance (Imperial or Stormcloaks) changes during this part of the quest, it will be completed and the guards will vanish from the game, making it impossible to start No One Escapes From Cidhna Mine. This paints the setting of apprehension which has rippled throughout the city. If you end this combat (either by killing all guards or otherwise), any Markarth City Guard who sees you afterward will attempt to arrest you on sight for "murder and conspiracy against the city of Markarth". Spoiler: Re: "The Forsworn Conspiracy" - The decision. Everyone in the household draws their weapons, including Nepos. The Dragonborn has to avoid any conversation with Thonar, as this triggers the attack. — Unsigned comment by 98.210.200.191 at 03:27 on 27 December 2011. I've received a note from a man named Eltrys in Markarth. 95. I don't worship Talos, myself. I always try not to kill anyone if I can help it (just out of kindness and I dont want to kill an important person by accident) anyways I reloaded and pickpocket the diary off of him and he's alive. The journal mentions Thonar Silver-Blood, and the next objective becomes "Find evidence about Thonar. After finding out more info on Margret, one of the guards approached and threatened me to stay out of their business. When acquiring Weylin's Note from the chest, taking the note adds 'Read Weylin's Note' to your journal, even if you read the note before taking it. The events leading to the Forsworn Conspiracy quest trigger the first time you enter Markarth. Some stages may therefore repeat objectives seen in other stages. Entering these console commands will cause Weylin to attack Margret: If you become a Thane of the Reach before starting or completing this quest, you will not be arrested when you return to the Shrine of Talos, making you unable to complete the quest. If you give Margret's journal to Eltrys before leaving the Shrine of Talos and immediately after taking the quest, it will be bugged when reentering the temple of Talos to return the clues you found. I think he yelled 'Forsworn'. Searching the end table in her room will yield Margret's journal. I decided to kill the King in Rags after he asked me to help him … There is no significant difference to the plot between saving Margret or allowing Weylin to kill her, although if Margret is saved, she rewards the Dragonborn with a silver emerald necklace. The three guards from the previous quest "The Forsworn Conspiracy," will still be there, and the middle guard will engage in the same conversation as at the end of that quest. I get sent to jail normally and "The Forsworn Conspiracy" quest never completes, and "No One Escapes from Cidhna Mine" never starts. When you enter Thonar's room he doesn't seem alarmed to see you and you may speak to him about Margret, the Forsworn, or the guards that are harassing you. Upon entering Markarth a violent scene will unfold. His room is to the left and then straight ahead. So what happened before? Dryston may fail to spawn when you have exited the Warrens. Markarth Silence witnesses. Any text displayed in angle brackets (e.g.. Not all Journal Entries may appear in your journal; which entries appear and which entries do not depends on the manner in which the quest is done. I'm sure the King in rags and his Forsworn would love to meet you. Upon first entering Markarth, the Dragonborn is witness to an argument in the market. https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/No_One_Escapes_Cidhna_Mine If you pickpocket Nepos's journal and only read it after going outside, the quest will update and tell you to go meet Eltrys, but when you do, only two guards are waiting next to Eltrys's body and won't initiate dialogue. After fighting the Forsworn agents in the Treasury house, Thonar may not talk to the player but keep fighting indefinitely. He will tell you that he's commanding the Forsworn. Same thing happened to me. heck yea i am!' It is impossible to get your reward after you meet with, Eltrys's dead body can be un-vanished and looted using the console with. Wiki Points. That's all I know." We had a nice little deal going between Thonar and Madanach until you and Eltrys started snooping around. Talked to Nepos,killed him, because "you think you'll get out here alive? Turn away if you have not attempted the quest in the Hold of Markarth. The door can also be opened by picking the lock. You can report back to Eltrys with what you have discovered about Nepos for a leveled gold reward. And bodies don't get found in the Warrens Storm: At least let me stay a day longer. Ignored him and continued my research. You'll have plenty of time with the King in Rags when you're in Cidhna mine [sic]. Eltrys' body has many valuable items, including a large sum of. Then the guard came to me and,like "this is not your business - get outta here". Upon completion of any task. As you try to leave, quite unexpectedly a group of mage-assassins will rush into the house and kill Thonar's wife (screen above). This page was last modified on 3 December 2020, at 18:42. lokiiztwiztid. Weylin's room is to the rear of the Warrens, on the right-hand side. In actuality, what would happen if i fled Makarth, and returned? Margret can be saved if Weylin is killed before stabbing her. Any method of avoiding jail time will be rendered useless against Markarth guards after Eltrys is killed. But keep your hands to yourselves. MS01. Followers may get permanently stuck in the Shrine of Talos, regardless of whether or not the quest is completed and you escaped from Cidhna Mine. Thonar is located in the Treasury House. I can't believe it has been nearly a year since I last posted here. He will tell you to leave his house, threatening to call the guards otherwise. Quest ID This will then grant the Dragonborn a bounty-free trip to Cihdna Mine. They started to accuse me in things I haven't done. At the moment that the attacker draws his weapon, the Markarth City Guards rush towards the attacker and slay him. Some kind of note. Note that there is some reasonable loot available in Nepos' house, especially in the bedroom on the right (for example, there are at least five silver ingots). They will then attempt to apprehend the Dragonborn on sight. If you enter the shrine at any time after this quest is completed, they will accuse you of conspiracy. Type Replied on January 10, 2012. Next Quest Newer Than: Search this thread only; Search this forum only. I read about the glitch and that you can overcome it by pausing 24hrs and then talk to on of the guards to get the quest fixed. He pleads for your help; find out why Weylin attacked Margret and who is behind all of this. Quest Giver Following Eltrys' suspicions that Thonar and the Treasury House are involved in this conspiracy should be your next stop. But I want to kill him, I don't want to part of the Forsworn and I don't want to battle the people and guards in Markarth. I know that when I walk back into the Shrine of Talos in Markarth the second time to tell Eltrys what I found, he should be dead with a couple guards and some imperial captain there who attack me. Wiki Points. If Margret is alive, she will be sitting by the fire at the inn or standing out in the marketplace. The way of gathering information about Margret changes, as do some dialogues, but the rest of the quest remains the same. So i was wandering around skyrim just clearing out my misc quests. An alternative, more silent and safe way, is to quickly pickpocket Nepos' Journal from Nepos (instead of talking to him), and then run outside. If you attack Dryston with anything but your fists (i.e., weapons or magic), you will receive a bounty and any guards that witness the fight will attack you. I've received a note from a man named Eltrys in Markarth. You can extort him if you're a terrible person, or you can insist that no, seriously, you don't want the note, at which point he'll take it back, and the Forsworn Conspiracy quest will stop, while the actual conspiracy continues unabated behind closed doors - not that you care, of … If you obtain Margret's journal before meeting with Eltrys at the Shrine of Talos, the guard that approaches you after reading the journal and exiting the Silver-Blood Inn may be missing all speech audio (subtitles show for a fraction of a second then disappear), even greetings. Kill Nana Ildene and Donnel, and then express your sympathies to Thonar. Resetting the quest has no effect. However, he is reluctant to talk to you, giving you a Speech challenge, which actually results in very little information. You know the mission where you're framed and taken to Cidhna Mine? Apparently, Margret is an Imperial spy working with General Tullius to investigate the Treasury House and the Silver-Blood family. If you resist arrest, several waves of guards will attack you within the shrine. But when I enter the temple Eltrys is laying dead. In the ensuing confusion, the guards are curt as they try to quell the small crowd that has gathered. Is the whole city involve in this conspiracy? Another option is to lose the brawl. The other two guards will attack you, and because you are in conversation, there is no way to fight back, so be prepared. She apparently rented the nicest room in the inn, which is down the hall to the left of the entrance. ", Player: "Madanach is behind these killings!" Eltrys will be quite surprised that Nepos may be involved, but concedes that he may be getting orders from elsewhere. You show up, he's dead, and the guards attempt to arrest you. There's no bounty connected to it, so you can't pay it off. Two of the respawned guards will attack on sight, and one will tell you the same dialogue of accusing of conspiracy and will give you the bounty. After the death of Weylin, the Dragonborn can ignore reading. That's all I know, I swear!" Regardless of the response, he will tell the Dragonborn to get out. She was hoping to procure the deed to Cidhna Mine for the Imperials. Work. ), Shortly after the scene in the marketplace, a Breton citizen named Eltrys will approach you and ask if you saw what happened. Upon entering the Shrine of Talos, you will find Eltrys dead, but the guards will not arrest you for the murder. Talk to Margret (optional, if alive) 6. The other two guards will attack you, and because you are in conversation, there is no way to fight back, so be prepared. I'm new to Neoseeker, so...yeah. Lingering too long after the theft here will result in everyone becoming hostile. The quest is very interesting,but now I hate Markarth. Lingering too long after the theft here will result in everyone becoming hostile. Once the dialogue ends, proceed to the Warrens next. Margret about to be stabbed by Weylin in the Markarth market. I'm not engaged by the guards when they say this, but if I interact with them I am able to choose the old dialogue options. It may also be possible that no guards will appear in the shrine at all after this point. After leaving the inn with your information about Margret, a Markarth City guard will try to warn you off your investigations. You have a problem with that? Solution: The bug can be avoided if one advances "The House Of Horrors" quest to the point that Vigilant Tyranus is killed, before entering the shrine. You will now gain the objective "Find out who N is". As suspected, Nepos will then inform you that Uaile is actually a Forsworn agent and you won't be getting out of the house alive. Killed them all. If you ask about the crime and the Forsworn, they tell you that the Forsworn are nothing but a bunch of madmen, and to mind your own business. 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